over-revving on start-up

#1 by charly , Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:31 pm

Hello everyone!

I have a problem with my 2004 2.5td warrior and need expert advice (or any advice!). It's kind of a long story ...
I bought the l200 in November to use as a farm truck with FSH, previously used as a company car and never 'worked' or towed - apparently. It has done 82,632. Seemed a good buy!
Anyway it broke down on the M4 with a sudden loss of power and the RAC came out, the engine management light was on and codes were 11 and 10. It then started up without any problem and we drove to our destination without any problem, I subsequently had the crank sensors and throttle sensor replaced as this what the RAC said the code was. Then a few episodes of over-revving on start-up, it has never done it while driving, but it will rev to the redline if I don't turn it off. You can then leave it for a bit (usually a few hours) and it drives fine again.Then had a few more episodes of sudden loss of power and on examination the head gasket was knackered and also some charmer had removed the thermostat! This was all fixed including skimming the head and clutch and a few other bits replaced at the same time. Now I have still got the over-revving problem intermittently (irritatingly) ... it drives fine if it doesn't do it on start-up. A few ideas have included the turbo - but there isn't much oil in the turbo pipes - a bit, but nothing major. Also I am reluctant to chuck loads more money at the problem as no one really seems to know. When it over-revs it doesn't have an engine management light on.
Sorry to dump all this on my first post, but I am at my wits end! I also really like the truck and would like to get it working, if it's possible without ruining myself! When it works it's great... when!
Thanks so much in advance for any ideas you guys may have. I am not really mechanically minded and this is my first 4x4, so advice for dummies would be massively appreciated, and also any tips for a good garage in the Taunton/Somerset area.
Thanks!
Charly


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#2 by ronniecabers , Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:07 pm

was it overreving before you replaced crank and throttle sensors?


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#3 by krutly , Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:21 pm

as far as I understand there are 2 parts to the fly by wire throttle system ...... the bit that sends the reading and the bit that receives the reading ......... could it be the part you haven't replaced that could cause this problem ? ..... anyone else got any ideas on this theory ?


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#4 by Lemmy , Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:25 pm

ECU.

Also make sure You keep your foot off the loud pedal when starting, as that confuses the ECU as to what is the correct base idle speed.

TBH you've found signs of bodgery, I'd give it s polish and punt it on right sharpish before some other disguised fault appears.


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#5 by charly , Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:52 pm

Hello

Thanks for all your responses. It wasn't over-revving before the sensors were replaced ...


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#6 by ronniecabers , Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:55 pm

A Pain , but I'd start at the sensors , I think you can test the resistances @123hotchef or @Jon Grimsby might be able to offer more advise there than me though


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#7 by 123hotchef , Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:55 pm

yep u sure can


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#8 by ronniecabers , Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:57 pm

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yep u sure can


Well help the man out and tell him how to do it then cheffy LOL! ....coz I ain't got a clue!!


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#9 by 123hotchef , Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:59 pm

its in the manuale


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#10 by 123hotchef , Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:01 pm

@charly

take a look in here mate the resistances and voltages of the sensors and how to test them is all there

happy testing hope u have a multi meter


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#13 by 123hotchef , Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:03 pm

its been a long day


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#14 by charly , Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:59 pm

OK, thanks gentlemen! I will take a look and keep you posted as to my progress!


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#15 by charly , Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:42 pm

OK, sensors are all working as they should ... so without squirting another chunk of cash at the problem without really being sure what the problem actually is I am a bit stumped. Part ex is looking like an attractive option...


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#16 by 123hotchef , Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:58 am

take the ecu out and inspect the tracks for damage


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#17 by 123hotchef , Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:16 am

could oil or fuel be draing into the pistons whilst its sat


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#18 by charly , Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:34 pm

Thanks for that ... also I did the check for fuel in the oil with dipstick onto paper and it looked like plain oil... On one of its trips to the garage they mentioned oil is leaking from the intercooler. Could that do something? It has only ever done it on start up and drives really nicely when it doesn't do it. Your help is much appreciated!!


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RE: over-revving on start-up

#19 by Lemmy , Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:02 pm

Quote: charly wrote in post #5
Hello

Thanks for all your responses. It wasn't over-revving before the sensors were replaced ...


Don't get too hung up on that. Its likely to be related to your problem, but not guaranteed. I once had a customer's car in for new wipers and a bulb, and wishbone snapped on his way home and his wheel went for a jolly - he applied the same logic you are now and insisted it must have been me, as the vehicle was fine until I'd been near it


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