is it the battery?

#1 by paulw , Mon May 25, 2020 2:37 pm

Since lockdown I have been starting disco once a week. last three weeks I have had to jumpstart it. Put batt on a charger/trickle charge, tried today. Dead! but when I now switch ignition I get all the lights, but a 'ping ping' and there is a flashing 'sign next to the trip? never had that before. any ideas. batt is 8 years old so guessing start there. not tried a jump start yet but assuming the batt is the culprit?


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RE: is it the battery?

#2 by krutly , Mon May 25, 2020 2:48 pm

never had a battery on any vehicle last more than 5 years whether it's used all the time or used infrequently and left on a trickle charger
there's a chance your alternator is shot and hence each time you start it up it's getting flatter and flatter but my money is on the battery


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RE: is it the battery?

#3 by paulw , Mon May 25, 2020 2:57 pm

Thanks Kurt, no warning signs for alt so yeh I thought battery cheers stay safe mate


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RE: is it the battery?

#4 by Tek76 , Mon May 25, 2020 8:55 pm

probably the battery indeed, or you have an electron leak... have you left any of the extras turned on by accident? Even my cheap chinese voltmeter eats a steady diet of em.


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RE: is it the battery?

#5 by The raging bull , Wed May 27, 2020 9:35 am

Best way to test is start up the truck and disconnect the negative on the battery. If everything still running then alt is ok


 
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RE: is it the battery?

#6 by paulw , Wed May 27, 2020 10:07 am

can't start it, batt is so flat it clicks and shows a warning sign next to trip! never seen that before. bought a new batt yesterday, waiting for it to be delivered.

https://www.alpha-batteries.co.uk/664-ul...ercial-battery/


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RE: is it the battery?

#7 by ronniecabers , Wed May 27, 2020 7:51 pm

Cant believe you waited over a week when we told you brginning of last week thr battery was goosed lol


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RE: is it the battery?

#8 by paulw , Wed May 27, 2020 9:54 pm

Quote: ronniecabers wrote in post #7
Cant believe you waited over a week when we told you brginning of last week thr battery was goosed lol

yeh , not touched any of the motors for over a week, been busy with the hydroponics and vg!!


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RE: is it the battery?

#9 by Tek76 , Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm

Quote: ronniecabers wrote in post #7
Cant believe you waited over a week when we told you brginning of last week thr battery was goosed lol

Like mineral water, takes awhile to seep through...


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RE: is it the battery?

#10 by paulw , Thu May 28, 2020 10:24 am

Quote: Tek76 wrote in post #9
Quote: ronniecabers wrote in post #7
Cant believe you waited over a week when we told you brginning of last week thr battery was goosed lol

Like mineral water, takes awhile to seep through...


not so much mineral water, more like homebrew


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RE: is it the battery?

#11 by paulw , Fri May 29, 2020 6:28 pm

ok, so got the new battery, but before putting it on run the multi tester on both batts. they both show the same amps?? NOW i am confused!! doesn't take much. main earth doesn't look great could be that?


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RE: is it the battery?

#12 by Tek76 , Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 pm

Will the new one crank? Means it's either the starter (check the wires - tightness and condition), earthing, or the previously mentioned electron leaking from something.


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RE: is it the battery?

#13 by paulw , Sat May 30, 2020 10:19 am

anybody know what this ? never seen it before , it flashes and bleeps!!

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/attachments/image-jpeg.99041/


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RE: is it the battery?

#14 by ronniecabers , Sat May 30, 2020 6:03 pm

bit of reasearch and looks like it could be quite serious Paul , honestly maybe now is thwe time to get shot of it ...seeing as you aren't using it

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That crossed B (not 8) is the worst news u can get for a D2... it means comunication failure between the BCU and IDM(part of interior fusebox)...this could have 3 reasons:
1. BCU failure(90% of cases)
2. IDM failure (9% of cases but usually due to water ingress)
3. comunication datalink wiring issue(1% possible and very rare)

Easyest to rule out is IDM/fusebox cos you can borrow a known good one and swap for test cos it doesnt need tester for settings...Good luck


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RE: is it the battery?

#15 by Tek76 , Sat May 30, 2020 7:22 pm

Quote: ronniecabers wrote in post #14
bit of reasearch and looks like it could be quite serious Paul , honestly maybe now is thwe time to get shot of it ...seeing as you aren't using it

Zitat
That crossed B (not 8) is the worst news u can get for a D2... it means comunication failure between the BCU and IDM(part of interior fusebox)...this could have 3 reasons:
1. BCU failure(90% of cases)
2. IDM failure (9% of cases but usually due to water ingress)
3. comunication datalink wiring issue(1% possible and very rare)

Easyest to rule out is IDM/fusebox cos you can borrow a known good one and swap for test cos it doesnt need tester for settings...Good luck



Esp, as apparently this spare has dried up, and can only be refurbished - and you get the quote once the company has ripped it apart er, examined it. As Ronnie says, time to take it out back and apply shotgun.


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RE: is it the battery?

#16 by paulw , Sat May 30, 2020 8:50 pm

Fecking hell fingers crossed I can get it running, THEN off load it. I have read somewhere that if you put it ti ignition 2 and wait for 5 mins it clears, hope it does!


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Thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, but it was somebody with a torch bringing more work!
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RE: is it the battery?

#17 by Tek76 , Sat May 30, 2020 9:06 pm

Quote: paulw wrote in post #16
Fecking hell fingers crossed I can get it running, THEN off load it. I have read somewhere that if you put it ti ignition 2 and wait for 5 mins it clears, hope it does!


Might need to sacrifice a few chickens on a moonless night for that one.


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