RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#26 by ronniecabers , Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:51 pm

Quote: Daviemtc wrote in post #24
Stupid question but Is this the original 4D56 block? looks like you have extra waterways on the manifold side that i don't have on the block I've got here or on the milners short motor. looks like the gasket is blocking them too.


I'd be wary quoting Milners blocks against originals, as the Milner engine is a Hyundai engine


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#27 by Daviemtc , Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:44 pm

It WAS a stupid question. I was looking at the holes on the head and got a wee bit mixed up. Forgot about the hole in mine that all the sense pours out of DOH!
Am awa ta boil ma ain heid.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#28 by Ganers , Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:59 pm

Well cleaned everything off, rubbed the block and head down with wet and dry and a block, no signs of warping, then checked with a straight edge all looks good. I canít see any signs of cracking on the face of the head or below the rockers but as mentioned here it could still be buggered.
Only thing I can see is some corrosion on number four but itís contained within the piston area as you can see on the photos, this is the back of the head where it was leaking.
Nothing seems bad.
However just been reminded that when I last did the head I reused the bolts because I couldnít get new ones in time. Maybe a possible cause of the gasket failure??
Itís ready to go back together.
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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#29 by 123hotchef , Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:30 pm

looks like k seal or similar too me id be flushing the system through properly include the matrix and remove the block plug


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#30 by Daviemtc , Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:37 pm

Re-using old bolts isn't the best option no, be sure to get the bolt holes as clean as possible tho. Any shite left in them will surely affect torque settings eh.?


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#31 by 123hotchef , Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:43 pm

as for the hynadi bit I took a hynadai head off of a L200 a few months back and replaced it with a FIA on first hyandi head i have seen.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#32 by Ganers , Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:49 pm

Iíve got a bottle of flush for when itís back together and Iíve flushed the block with hose. Iíve scraped the bolt holes and blasted them out with wd then dried em so hopefully thatís done. Going to put it back together tomorrow and see how it goes. If it works Iíve saved £400 on a new head, if it doesnít Iíve lost £90 and have to do it again with a new head so kind of worth the risk, because letís be honest who doesnít love being up to their elbows in grease taking there engine apart!!


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#33 by 123hotchef , Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:53 pm

did u remove the block plug? I always pull the matrix hoses off and flush that through too both directions


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#34 by Ganers , Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:01 pm

No, Iíve flushed it through the rad hoses. So do I need to pull the block plug too?


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#35 by 123hotchef , Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:08 pm

ideally yeh because its the lowest point and all the crapola sits there, did u take the stat out to flush?


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#36 by 123hotchef , Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:08 pm

14mm socket its fooking tight up behind and below the turbo is the drain plug.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#37 by Ganers , Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:12 pm

Thanks for that Iíll sort that tomorrow before rebuilding. I took the stat out think it was gunned up because it wouldnít move till I cleaned it scraped it and still have to boil it to death in a pan to get to open, I was surprised because it didnít have the small hole in it.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#38 by 123hotchef , Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:27 pm

jiggle valve? cheap ones dont


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#39 by Daviemtc , Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:51 pm

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jiggle valve? cheap ones dont

Maybee you've solved part of the eternal L200 overheating mystery here El Chefo


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#40 by 123hotchef , Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:00 pm

nah! u can drill a wee hole in if it dont have a valve! its just to allow a tiny bit of circulaton should also be installed with valve at 1 o clock poistion IIRC


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#41 by Daviemtc , Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:53 pm

Ah! Aye my old man ( who was a pretty shit hot plant fitter in his time ) told me they were to let any trapped air passed the stat just like this:-Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)
ergo any stats fitted without a jiggle valve wouldn't have this ability and could theoretically contribute to overheating.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#42 by Ganers , Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:52 am

Well itís all back together, oiled up and water filled, it pains me to admit this but rushing to fire it up in failing light I forgot to put the starter motor back in from locking up the crank pulley. It activated the starter got a lovely noise and a little flash. Now of course with the starter bolted in all the dash lights come as normal glow plugs etc no warnings and just a loud relay type click and nothing. The batteries fine cause Iíve checked it and jumped it. Thinking Iíve blown a fuse or something. But I cannot find a starter fuse.
Numpty mistake I know but has anyone any ideas?


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#43 by Daviemtc , Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:44 pm

I think in the engine bay fuse box

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Big blue box relay. Clear blue above it should be your fuse.
I may be wrong here but doubtless a correction will be along shortly.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#44 by Ganers , Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:17 pm

Yep looked in there and all fuses test ok as does relay. Iíve jumped the starter direct and the solenoid jumps ok but the motor wonít spin, Iím thinking Iíve goosed it.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#45 by Ganers , Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:25 pm

Yep looked in there and all fuses test ok as does relay. Iíve jumped the starter direct and the solenoid jumps ok but the motor wonít spin, Iím thinking Iíve goosed it.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#46 by 123hotchef , Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:04 pm

Quote: Daviemtc wrote in post #41
Ah! Aye my old man ( who was a pretty shit hot plant fitter in his time ) told me they were to let any trapped air passed the stat just like this:-
ergo any stats fitted without a jiggle valve wouldn't have this ability and could theoretically contribute to overheating.


exactly! its cheaper to produce them without!


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#47 by Daviemtc , Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:39 am

You can pick one up for about £20- £50 second hand ,
Or I found these advertising on fleabuy:-

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Manchester Auto Electrical Ltd T/A Direct Auto Electrical
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Greater Manchester
m5 3sq
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Email:info@directautoelectrical.co.uk

Brand new starter with12month guarantee for £87.95, looks close to you.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#48 by Ganers , Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:52 am

Cheers matey thatís just up the road.


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#49 by Ganers , Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:45 am

Well Iíve put a new starter on it, tested off the car and it spins and throws. Iíve tested the fuses and the relays, all bell out ok. But nothing when I turn the key. Iíve run out of ideas now?


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RE: 2005 L200 Warrior head issues

#50 by Daviemtc , Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:52 pm

Have you tested the main power feed cable to the starter? (on the top pin) is the connector good and shiny? any visible cable damage or swelling? .and the solenoid socket? they can get pretty full of shite (little blackplug,) although if the solenoid is throwing out this one is probably ok.


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