injectors

#1 by Wattonite , Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:15 pm

Hi, Looking for a cheap way out, Does anybody know how I can check my Injectors out at home, without costing a small fortune? or what thread the fuel line connectionn is / what pressure they should open at??
Thanks for any info or advice, other than stop being a tight a**e and take it to a garage....


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RE: injectors

#2 by Heathen , Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:54 pm

what truck you got?


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RE: injectors

#3 by Heathen , Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:54 pm

I guess a classic then if you're asking about pressures


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RE: injectors

#4 by Wattonite , Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:47 pm

It's a 2003 warrior. Was wondering what pressure the injections work at and how to check them.


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RE: injectors

#5 by paulw , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:34 pm

Quote: Heathen wrote in post #2
what truck you got?

just noticed you have the classic, 100 thou plus, what issues have you had? sadly my warrior died at 78 thou from new, took three grand to fix, and felt i couldn't trust it anymore. still miss it though


did have warrior, but crossed over to disco 2.
Thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, but it was somebody with a torch bringing more work!
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RE: injectors

#6 by Heathen , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:52 pm

@paulw trucks been pretty reliable so far (touch wood), but I like tinkering to keep things working as they should. Most problems have been caused by a lack of maintenance, and jobs done incorrectly by previous owners - think I've mostly got on top of these for now, but need to take the gearbox out for some work when I have the chance.

@Wattonite - manual says 14,710-15,690 kPa - that's from the "13E - Diesel fuel" section. I had my injectors out a while ago and stripped them down for a visual inspection and decarbonised them. Pretty straightforward job really. Have you got a specific problem or just checking things out? You could get a longer fuel line made up and have them inject into a bottle to check the spray pattern.


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RE: injectors

#7 by Heathen , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:54 pm


'02 K74 single cab.


 
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RE: injectors

#8 by paulw , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:55 pm

yeh bought my warrior day england won rugby world cup in 2003, told showroom would be late as watching extra time, they were too! thought it would be my last truck, sadly not to be, but still miss it


did have warrior, but crossed over to disco 2.
Thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, but it was somebody with a torch bringing more work!
Landies don't leak oil, they just sweat


 
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#9 by Heathen , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:57 pm

That's pretty poor mileage for any vehicle to die!


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#10 by Heathen , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:58 pm

What happened to it - was it the dreaded head?


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RE: injectors

#11 by paulw , Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:59 pm

full services on the dot, It popped towing van back from devon after mums funeral, not a happy time!!


did have warrior, but crossed over to disco 2.
Thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, but it was somebody with a torch bringing more work!
Landies don't leak oil, they just sweat


 
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RE: injectors

#12 by paulw , Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:01 am

Quote: Heathen wrote in post #10
What happened to it - was it the dreaded head?

yep head , but long story, replaced gasket then taking son back to oxford, blew all rockers on M40 story starts!


did have warrior, but crossed over to disco 2.
Thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, but it was somebody with a torch bringing more work!
Landies don't leak oil, they just sweat


 
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RE: injectors

#13 by Heathen , Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:01 am

Must have been - can only imagine. I'm after a disco 2 at the moment!


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RE: injectors

#14 by paulw , Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:02 am

love our disco2 , not without probs, bit it is sound


did have warrior, but crossed over to disco 2.
Thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, but it was somebody with a torch bringing more work!
Landies don't leak oil, they just sweat


 
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#15 by Heathen , Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:02 am

Aye - I'm sorting of waiting for that to happen to mine really. It's used as a proper workhorse still


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#16 by Heathen , Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:04 am

It's not to drive though neighbour has a series 3 landrover that we are going to do an engine swap on, so it will be the donor vehicle - his original 2 1/4 petrol cracked the block and the head


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RE: injectors

#17 by Wattonite , Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:53 am

@Heathen , original problem was head, makes a change i know! Now smokey, white ish, cooling all seems fine, smells a bit, so looking toward proving fuel pump and injectors are ok without spending too much more!!


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RE: injectors

#18 by Heathen , Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:17 pm

Sounds like pump timing might be out


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#19 by Wattonite , Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:26 pm

That's what I'm hoping (or dodgy injector) just been searching the forum to see how to check it all, but need to make a tool to check (have a dti) but no dimensions for the tool, and hoping for some definitive answers on how to do it!!


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RE: injectors

#20 by Heathen , Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:56 pm

I wrote a how-to on this the other day mate - includes a link to a tool that will work


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#21 by Wattonite , Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:11 pm

Cool. Just found it, will have a read through and see what I can do.... thanks.


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RE: injectors

#22 by Heathen , Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:22 am

Air in fuel might be another (cheap) cause - other things can also cause it, but like you say, check the cheap options first.


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#23 by Wattonite , Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:15 pm

Ok, just had another rough week at work, thought I would have a quick look at the injector timing job as per @Heathen how-to instructions to see how easy it will be when I get the dti adapter, only to find my bottom cambelt cover has lost its timing knob thingy!! Any ideas how to mark positions without this? Or is it another strip down to remove cover?


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#24 by Heathen , Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:05 pm

You could half the angles in the howto and mark them directly onto injector pump sprocket or you could line up the pump and cam sprockets with their timing pegs and make your own TDC mark on the lower timing cover (lining up with the pulley notch). I'm not sure either of these would be accurate enough though. Ideally you want to remove the lower timing cover and and line up the inner crank sprocket with it's timing peg, then put the cover back on and mark it in line with the notch (not sure how easy or visible this would be though). Even more ideal, get a replacement lower timing cover!


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RE: injectors

#25 by Heathen , Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:05 pm

Another thing I was wondering - have the tappets been adjusted properly since the new head went on?


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